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| PH_ | hi | 10:31 |
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| laszlof | thanks for the email nick :) | 15:02 |
| nowen | hehe, I should have known you're were ahead of me on it | 15:03 |
| laszlof | I was actually on the phone with Matt (the owner of WHMCS) when it all happened | 15:04 |
| nowen | ouchie | 15:04 |
| nowen | you sell him on some 2FA? ;)\ | 15:04 |
| laszlof | working on it, though that wasnt really the issue here | 15:04 |
| nowen | (that's a typo, not some new emoticon) | 15:04 |
| laszlof | he had everything hosted on 1 box, the hackers use social engineering to get the hosting company to give up the servers password | 15:05 |
| laszlof | and the box used cpanel :/ | 15:05 |
| nowen | ahh - but if he used 2FA on the server they wouldn't have a had a password to give, right? | 15:06 |
| laszlof | yeah, but you cant do that with cpanel | 15:06 |
| nowen | ahh - that's right | 15:06 |
| laszlof | im trying to get him to get rid of cpanel all together | 15:06 |
| laszlof | they dont need it | 15:06 |
| nowen | what are you proposing instead? | 15:06 |
| laszlof | a minimal LAMP install on several servers, separating various business items on segregated networks | 15:07 |
| laszlof | i.e., a database server, a web server, a logging server, possibly a firewalled access server to manage them | 15:08 |
| laszlof | whats scary is how much money they're making, and not having this done already | 15:08 |
| laszlof | numbers being thrown around based on the database dump the hacker got is somewhere to the tune of $500K/month | 15:08 |
| nowen | well, making money tends to be relaxing. | 15:09 |
| nowen | not that i would know | 15:09 |
| laszlof | haha | 15:09 |
| laszlof | tell me about it | 15:09 |
| nowen | $500k/mo is a lot of relaxation | 15:11 |
| laszlof | yeah.. | 15:11 |
| laszlof | that number is probably over-estimated.. someone took the number of active clients listed and multiplied it by $7/month | 15:11 |
| laszlof | which is the minimum monthly charge for WHMCS | 15:12 |
| laszlof | but some people have multiple licenses, some have owned licenses. etc | 15:12 |
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