| *** nowen (~nowen@adsl-74-176-212-133.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #wikid | 13:17 | |
| *** mmercer (~mmercer@ct-unlimited.com) has joined #wikid | 21:58 | |
| mmercer | lo all | 21:58 |
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| nowen | hi | 21:58 |
| mmercer | how ya doing ? | 21:58 |
| nowen | busy :) | 21:59 |
| mmercer | best way to be if its during the week, if youre not busy, thats generally a bad sign ;) | 21:59 |
| mmercer | so just found out about wikid, and curious about the client support for the community version | 21:59 |
| nowen | true! | 21:59 |
| nowen | my wife and all my in-laws went to Princeton | 22:01 |
| mmercer | sounds fun, get to be home alone for a bit ? | 22:02 |
| nowen | hehe, no, they attended. | 22:02 |
| nowen | it seems from this: http://www.ct-unlimited.com/ that you are running PUIAS, the princeton redhat, flavor, no? | 22:04 |
| mmercer | ahh | 22:04 |
| mmercer | yes :) | 22:04 |
| mmercer | i discovered it a few months back | 22:04 |
| nowen | do you like it more than centos? | 22:04 |
| mmercer | well, sorta... | 22:04 |
| mmercer | the main reason i left centos is that the developers are all getting... uptight, and schedules were thrown completely out of the window | 22:04 |
| mmercer | myself and a bunch of the other regulars of #centos/#rhel had been talking about alternatives, i found out about puias, and I have tried to adopt it where i can because at least its builds are consistent, and automated | 22:05 |
| mmercer | the downside to puias is that it is not well known, so there is much less q/a and validation as opposed to the well known CentOS project | 22:05 |
| nowen | hmm | 22:05 |
| nowen | we use centos for our iso/images | 22:05 |
| mmercer | i still use CentOS at work only because noone knows puias, but my goal is to start contributing to puias and using it | 22:05 |
| mmercer | for all of my personal stuff | 22:06 |
| mmercer | once i have validated it and tested it thoroughly, become a maintainer/packager, then i may push for it in the workplace :) | 22:06 |
| mmercer | well, that explains why i couldnt find the android token app on the market | 22:06 |
| mmercer | not compatible with my device... i get so tired of that, lol | 22:07 |
| nowen | what kind of device? | 22:07 |
| mmercer | droid bionic running a custom rom | 22:07 |
| nowen | what version os, that is | 22:07 |
| mmercer | 2.3.4 | 22:07 |
| nowen | what rom? | 22:07 |
| mmercer | hmm, cant remember the name of it, one sec | 22:08 |
| mmercer | its one of the theoryroms | 22:08 |
| mmercer | kin3tx rom | 22:09 |
| mmercer | for some reason it didnt like touchdown either, had to have them issue me a license, even though i know i had it running on my bionic just fine | 22:09 |
| nowen | hmm. not sure why it would not be available | 22:09 |
| nowen | did you try downloading the apk from the website? | 22:10 |
| mmercer | not yet no | 22:10 |
| nowen | we're re-writing that token too btw, should be out later this week/next | 22:11 |
| mmercer | ahh, nice | 22:11 |
| mmercer | kinda surprising that the CEO of a company is actually in the irc rooms, kinda refreshing =D | 22:12 |
| mmercer | id imagine you guys are a small elite team | 22:12 |
| nowen | well, small | 22:13 |
| nowen | :) | 22:13 |
| nowen | all the fun prospects are on irc :) | 22:13 |
| mmercer | lol, people who play with crypto and algorithms like that are rarely *not* elite ;) | 22:13 |
| mmercer | ok, installed just fine | 22:14 |
| mmercer | is the app net aware so that it can grab updates ota? | 22:14 |
| nowen | not yet | 22:15 |
| nowen | hmm | 22:15 |
| nowen | now that I say that, I'm not sure | 22:15 |
| mmercer | lol | 22:15 |
| mmercer | thats how it goes! | 22:15 |
| nowen | I don't think it is. we wrote it for android 1.4 or something very early. it is in desperate need of the re-write | 22:16 |
| mmercer | ahhh, gotcha | 22:16 |
| mmercer | how about the iphone, and rim apps ? | 22:16 |
| mmercer | and hrm, i dont even think my droid 1 is on that old a platform, lol | 22:17 |
| nowen | the rim app is up-to-date. | 22:17 |
| mmercer | think i got it up to android 2.3.3 | 22:17 |
| mmercer | cool | 22:17 |
| nowen | the iphone is too | 22:17 |
| mmercer | awesome | 22:17 |
| * mmercer is the main android user of the company, so not a big deal | 22:17 | |
| mmercer | just looking at cheap and affordable ways of integrating 2factor for our systems | 22:17 |
| nowen | is this for PCI? | 22:18 |
| mmercer | in the end, yes it will be | 22:18 |
| mmercer | very small startup, so $$$ can be a huge deal | 22:19 |
| mmercer | generally, community licenses don't have anything in them prohibiting them from being used in business, but thats where i havent read the ToS for the community version yet | 22:19 |
| nowen | it is gpl. http://www.wikidsystems.com/community-version/front-page/support/wikid-support-center/faq/whats-the-difference-between-the-community-release-and-enterprise-release/?searchterm=what%20is%20the%20difference | 22:20 |
| mmercer | nods, wasnt sure if there were any sublicenses in place | 22:20 |
| mmercer | had seen that part | 22:20 |
| mmercer | the key generation is also partially interesting | 22:21 |
| * mmercer wonders how long it will take to gen the key on his phone | 22:22 | |
| nowen | not long, that's the benefit of using ntru | 22:22 |
| mmercer | hmmm | 22:23 |
| mmercer | so the mobile clients all use ntru | 22:23 |
| nowen | yes | 22:23 |
| mmercer | thought ntru was only with the enterprise version ? | 22:23 |
| nowen | yes | 22:23 |
| mmercer | so am i to assume that the mobile clients will only work with enterprise and not with community ? | 22:23 |
| * mmercer can think of ways to limit it, but is sure it is also enable-able | 22:23 | |
| nowen | yes, as mentioned in that page. radius and wireless token | 22:23 |
| mmercer | ok what client formats are usable with the community, or would we have to write our own clients to do the key ceremony? | 22:24 |
| nowen | the java tokens for the PC | 22:25 |
| nowen | mac, linux, windows. | 22:25 |
| * mmercer nods | 22:26 | |
| mmercer | so the evaluation... only available as a vmware image? | 22:26 |
| nowen | no, iso, rpm, deb | 22:26 |
| mmercer | perfect | 22:27 |
| mmercer | would be better if i can convince management to use the enterprise version for the mobile clients alone | 22:27 |
| mmercer | is the system clusterable, or what type of database backend does it use... just want to make sure its resilient too, lol | 22:27 |
| nowen | we currently support a master/slave set up | 22:28 |
| nowen | we use postgres as the db. but consider "embedded" and try to keep most admins out of it :) | 22:28 |
| mmercer | lol | 22:28 |
| mmercer | with postgres, i dont blame ya | 22:28 |
| mmercer | pain in the butt to administer. always forget to set the trust local stanza so i can login, lol | 22:29 |
| nowen | haha | 22:29 |
| mmercer | i still prefer mysql, but i know postgres outperforms it in both security, and processing, lol | 22:30 |
| mmercer | work in both EL5 and EL6 ? (and id assume 64 and 32 bit as well0 | 22:31 |
| mmercer | or is it built for 32 bit mode | 22:31 |
| nowen | it works in 64 | 22:31 |
| * mmercer nods | 22:31 | |
| nowen | 6 should be ok | 22:31 |
| nowen | ok, later peeps. see ya tomorrow | 23:00 |
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