Wednesday, 2011-03-16

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Delaneyhi, i'm trying to add a cisco asa firewall as a new network client. Should I restart wikidctl after doing so to make it effective?06:59
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GTswaggernowen:  no need to reply back subscribe :)19:03
GTswaggerI just nuked last year's list and I'm adding this year's19:03
GTswaggereasier than going through one at a time for people who are speakers again19:03
nowenhaha19:03
nowenI was all "WHAT DID I DO?" :)19:03
GTswaggerlol19:05
GTswaggerNO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!19:05
nowenGTswagger: is the self IRC channel up this year?19:17
GTswaggernowen:  always has been19:19
GTswaggerfor years even!19:19
GTswagger#southeastlinuxfest19:19
GTswaggerAnd, if you have a filthy filthy sense of humor....19:19
GTswagger#self-offtopic19:19
GTswaggerJust go in that channel and type19:20
GTswagger!quote19:20
GTswaggerto see what I mean19:20
nowenhaha19:21
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nprodromouHowdy20:47
nprodromouhaving trouble getting the community edition installed to test20:47
nprodromouwhat's the recommended platform for install?20:47
nprodromoutried a first go-around on Centos 5.420:47
nprodromouand, frankly, I'm not a CentOS guy20:48
nprodromouand it didn't go so well20:48
nowenwhat happened nprodromou?20:50
nowenalso, what version are you using?20:50
nprodromoutrying to install 3.4.6520:51
nprodromouso, I then decided if I was goign to have to screw around with it anyway, I might as well move over to Ubuntu, which is my preference20:52
nprodromouand then deal with the alien install20:52
nprodromouthat's seeming like a big mistake20:52
nprodromouSO20:52
nowenwell, what error did you get on centos?20:52
nprodromounow i'm just wondering what people generally install on20:52
nprodromouI wouldn't get an error in centos20:52
nowencentos20:52
nprodromouit just wouldn't run20:52
nowenour enterprise  iso based on centos20:53
nowendo you still have it available?20:53
nprodromouuh, no20:53
nprodromouI killed the slice20:53
nowenwell, we're working on a .deb for ubuntu, but it's not ready yet20:53
nprodromouso, I need to go with the centos, huh?20:54
nprodromouok20:54
nowenI can walk you through it, it's not hard20:55
nprodromouand we're talking Centos 5.4, yeah?20:55
nprodromouyeah, it didn't seem that hard20:55
nprodromoubut it wasn't working20:55
nprodromou:)20:55
nowen5.4 is fine20:55
nprodromouOkay20:55
nprodromouI'll recreate that slice20:56
nprodromouThis is what I was running through: http://www.wikidsystems.com/support/wikid-support-center/installation-how-tos/how-to-install-the-wikid-community-edition-3.x20:56
nprodromouhey, while I'm here, what's the big difference between the community and enterprise editions?20:57
nowensupport for radius and support for the wireless tokens. both use 3rd party sw20:57
nprodromouoh20:57
nprodromouwireless tokens might be important to me20:57
nprodromouyou mean to say that I can't do tokens on, say, and android device without enterprise?20:58
nprodromouor just that the android device has to actually have an internet connection to work?20:58
nowenthe former.20:58
nowenand the latter20:58
nprodromouwait20:59
nowenhttp://www.wikidsystems.com/community-version/support/wikid-support-center/faq/whats-the-difference-between-the-community-release-and-enterprise-release/?searchterm=what%20is%20the%20difference20:59
nprodromouwhat can I run the client on, then?20:59
nprodromousorry - I saw that before20:59
nowenWindows, Mac, PC.  for the java token.  there's an html5 token and some folks wrote a python token too20:59
nprodromoudidn't look like it included android or iphone in that list21:00
nowenall require internet access21:00
nprodromoudo the android and iphone clients leverage the J2ME?21:00
nowenhuh, you're right. it has not been updated21:00
nowenthey both use the ntru encryption algorithm, which is fast, but closed21:01
nprodromougotcha21:04
nprodromouso, to use on handhelds I need enterprise21:04
nowenyes21:04
nprodromouthere's no option to purchase a client that comes with the license?21:04
nowenno, but you can write your own if you like.21:05
nprodromouha!21:05
nprodromouthanks21:05
nprodromouI can barely write my own name21:06
nowenhaha21:06
nprodromouSounds like I need an enterprise license21:06
nowenis this for home?21:06
nprodromounah21:06
nprodromousmall company21:06
nowencorporate?21:06
nprodromoukinda?21:06
nprodromouwe're IT consultants looking to demo21:06
nprodromoupotentially for clients21:06
nowenyeah, well, we have a home license.  but the enterprise license starts at $24021:07
nprodromouwant to present an alternative to RSA for them21:07
nowenyou can test it and demo it21:07
nprodromouwhat's the home license cost?21:07
nprodromouyou can test and demo the enterprise?21:07
nprodromouwhat's the term like?21:07
nowenyeag21:07
nowenwell, 30 days, but we offer extensions21:07
nowenhow big is the customer?21:08
nprodromoulots of customers21:08
nprodromouexisting SA installs as small as 20 and as large as 12021:08
nprodromouRSA21:08
nowenjust set it up and start selling it. we'll give you a NFR copy if you sell some licenses21:09
nprodromouha21:10
nprodromouokay21:10
nprodromouyou have a reseller program?21:10
nowenyes21:10
nprodromouI assume we would just get a discount and make whatever margin we decide to on the product?21:10
nowenyes21:10
nprodromouwhat's the reseller pricing break?21:10
nowenbut keep in mind that our pricing is published online21:10
nowen20-30% based on $$21:11
nprodromouOK21:14
nprodromouAnd what kind of volume do we need to get to get NFR and reseller status?21:14
nprodromouIt may make more sense to just by the Enterprise edition and not mess with it.21:14
nprodromouI mean, at $250 for 10 users, it kind of seems like I've wasted more time than it's worth already.21:15
nowenhaha, I was just thinking the same thing ;)21:15
nowenjust download the enterprise ISO and install it.  use your real email and I'll contact you21:16
nprodromouuh21:16
nprodromoui have to install from the iso?21:16
nowenif you don't sell something in 6 months or so, if I remember I'll bill you21:16
nprodromouthat's not goign to work so well for me21:16
nowenno, you can install from the rpm, but the iso is easier21:16
nprodromouI want to run on a slice21:16
nprodromouvps21:16
nprodromouat slicehost21:16
nowenthat's fine, there's an rpm too21:17
nprodromouokay, cool21:17
nprodromouOkay21:19
nprodromoudownloading now21:19
nprodromouand I'll kill my ubuntu slice and start over with a CentOS box21:19
nprodromouhow many people are there at wikid?21:19
nprodromouso... CEntos 5.5 x64 is cool, right?21:20
nowendepends on the day :)21:20
nowenyes21:20
nprodromouokay, rebuilding now21:21
nprodromougonna have to hop in a about 10 for a call.21:22
nprodromouhow long are you around for?21:22
nowenand I leave around 6ish edt21:22
nprodromouOK21:23
nprodromouyou should see my download, no?21:23
nowenyes, got it21:23
nowennprodromou: you here?22:06
nprodromouI am22:07
nprodromoujust wrapping my call22:07
nowenok, I'll hang for a bit22:07
nowennprodromou: I've got to go.  want to pick this back up tomorrow?22:35
nprodromousounds good22:35
nowenlater22:35
nprodromousorry - just wrapped22:35
nowennp22:35
nprodromoudidn't mean to have you waiting around the office for me!22:35
nowensorry to have to go22:35
nowenbelieve me, I have plenty to do :)22:35
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