| proprietarysucks | there seems to be some kind of issue with this documentation | 00:17 |
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| proprietarysucks | for openjdk it says to do this ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre/ /opt/java | 00:18 |
| proprietarysucks | $JAVA_HOME , being set by default to /opt/java , breaks this process down it seems | 00:19 |
| proprietarysucks | because in /opt/WiKID/sbin/wikidserver_config.sh you're calling for example /bin/cp -af /opt/WiKID/conf/templates/java.security $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/security/ | 00:20 |
| proprietarysucks | which means it will look for /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre/jre/lib/security | 00:20 |
| proprietarysucks | changing those cp lines from $JAVA_HOME/jre/... to $JAVA_HOME/... works for me | 00:22 |
| proprietarysucks | hmmm, for the record I'm not able to install the community version by following the documentation at this time | 00:26 |
| proprietarysucks | /var/log/messages like http://pastebin.com/xqiD711M | 00:27 |
| proprietarysucks | spinning up two new vms to test with | 00:38 |
| proprietarysucks | ok | 01:35 |
| proprietarysucks | so here's the exact issues I run into when installing: http://pastebin.com/4PC7PAsW | 01:35 |
| proprietarysucks | any help would be appreciated | 01:35 |
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| cmatthews_ | Nick, morning, you around? | 15:59 |
| nowen | yep | 15:59 |
| nowen | morning | 15:59 |
| cmatthews_ | So I was hunting for a way to deal with my helpdesk needing multiple connections to restauarants at the same time and my VPN client only supports one tunnel at a time. | 16:00 |
| nowen | find anything? | 16:00 |
| cmatthews_ | And I found that pcAnywhere looks like it may support LDAP. | 16:00 |
| cmatthews_ | So I thought maybe I could leave that port open and use the Wikid LDAP. | 16:01 |
| cmatthews_ | Does that protocol work okay? And how can I add the ldap logger? | 16:01 |
| cmatthews_ | to the logs list. | 16:01 |
| nowen | sadly, I think our ldap does not work ok | 16:01 |
| cmatthews_ | Ahh... okay.. | 16:02 |
| nowen | we've moved from apacheds to opends and it's not fully functional IMO yet | 16:02 |
| cmatthews_ | np np thanks... | 16:02 |
| cmatthews_ | I'll keep hunting heh.. | 16:02 |
| nowen | what do you think about setting up a freenx server? | 16:03 |
| cmatthews_ | Would that give me ldap with a radius IF? | 16:03 |
| cmatthews_ | or that VNC solution we discussed? | 16:03 |
| nowen | no, it would be a replacement for pcanywehre | 16:03 |
| nowen | yes - the latter | 16:04 |
| cmatthews_ | yeah I'm open to the VNC idea option.. My helpdesk staff, would they need to interact with linux then or is that just a middle-ware they wouldn't deal with? | 16:04 |
| nowen | it's just middleware. they would have the nomachine client on their pc | 16:05 |
| cmatthews_ | They are even giving me grief about the need to put a pin in when request otp's.... | 16:05 |
| cmatthews_ | heh | 16:05 |
| nowen | do they know that it's required by visa et al? | 16:05 |
| cmatthews_ | okay I'll do some homework on that option and get abck in a bit ty. | 16:05 |
| nowen | we can help with config of the freenx server if you like. remotely set up freenx and pam_radius. it would cost, but reasonable | 16:06 |
| cmatthews_ | We already have ultravnc on all on restaurant back office servers, that a useable host? | 16:08 |
| cmatthews_ | And yes I'm totally open to paying for some service. | 16:08 |
| cmatthews_ | afk a min | 16:08 |
| nowen | what i'm proposing is a stand-alone linux server that only runs freenx or nomachine and routes the vnc traffic to the ultravnc servers | 16:09 |
| cmatthews_ | Would your implementation of nomachine be upgradeable to a pay version that would support up to like 20 VNC sessions? | 16:17 |
| cmatthews_ | or does freenx support that many? It looks like nomachine support 2 with the free version? | 16:18 |
| cmatthews_ | Also .. any place I can see a screenshot of what the login process looks like, that our helpdesk will use to authenticate? | 16:19 |
| nowen | freenx will support that many, I believe | 16:21 |
| cmatthews_ | nice | 16:21 |
| nowen | you can upgrade to the commercial version as well | 16:21 |
| nowen | http://www.nomachine.com/screenshots.php | 16:23 |
| cmatthews_ | Okay... Looks pretty nice, how would you like to proceed with $$ conversation? | 16:31 |
| nowen | brb -phone call | 16:43 |
| nowen | cmatthews_: just sent you an emial | 17:06 |
| cmatthews_ | Nick, just for clarification.. The helpdesk rep will be able to launch multiple VNC instances to different restaurants at the same time form the same PC using this solution? | 20:45 |
| nowen | yes. each nx session is pointed to a different VNC server. Each session can be a short-cut on the desktop, so they may have a lot of icons | 20:46 |
| nowen | or they can be menu items | 20:47 |
| cmatthews_ | kk nice, I just sent you the email confirming... | 20:51 |
| cmatthews_ | Sooner the better but just let me know how/when you woudl like to proceed. | 20:51 |
| cmatthews_ | Also | 21:03 |
| cmatthews_ | We have a pretty nice VNC manager application ... I'm emailing you a link to a picture of the connection settings. | 21:03 |
| nowen | ok | 21:04 |
| cmatthews_ | Curious if you think this might fit into the puzzle | 21:04 |
| cmatthews_ | sent | 21:06 |
| cmatthews_ | I know theres no way of knowing for sure, but just asking for best guess based on the configuration options shown. | 21:07 |
| nowen | how does it do ssh tunneling? | 21:09 |
| cmatthews_ | not entirely sure I haven't used that feature yet. | 21:11 |
| nowen | looks like it is built in | 21:11 |
| cmatthews_ | yes it is | 21:11 |
| nowen | there is nothing there about authentication at all | 21:11 |
| cmatthews_ | on that screen shot | 21:12 |
| nowen | in the pdf | 21:12 |
| cmatthews_ | if you click "password" in the box and go to properties it allows for ausername and password. | 21:12 |
| cmatthews_ | yea? | 21:12 |
| nowen | is that an AD password or something internal to their sofware? | 21:12 |
| cmatthews_ | really a bit confused on it atm.. Since the clients aren't their clients. | 21:13 |
| cmatthews_ | And it doesn't seem AD since that is supposed elsehwere | 21:14 |
| cmatthews_ | it's all in the SSL config area | 21:14 |
| cmatthews_ | Well I suppose it will be worth a try. | 21:14 |
| cmatthews_ | All else fails I just use the stuff you pointed me at. | 21:14 |
| cmatthews_ | Just looks promising since the SSL tunnel support seems applicable. | 21:14 |
| cmatthews_ | And it doesn't seem AD since that is supposed elsehwere --- meant supported not supposed | 21:15 |
| cmatthews_ | and where I said SSL I mean SSH... heh | 21:23 |
| cmatthews_ | my two finger typing sometimes has a mind of it's own. | 21:23 |
| nowen | seems like there is support for logging into ssh servers, but not tunneling through ssh | 21:23 |
| cmatthews_ | But you may notice on the screenshot | 21:24 |
| cmatthews_ | the type says "SSH Tunneling" | 21:24 |
| cmatthews_ | other choices are socks, http proxy, ultravnc repeater proxy | 21:25 |
| nowen | maybe so | 21:25 |
| cmatthews_ | yeah anyhow... would be nice we'll just try it once we get the server setup. | 21:25 |
| nowen | but since there is no info about authentication, it's hard to know | 21:25 |
| cmatthews_ | yep. | 21:26 |
| nowen | also, looking at the nx client, I think you can have 1 client and a drop down for servers | 21:27 |
| cmatthews_ | I see an SSH config area in here that mentions DSA/RSA as key type and key format of OpenSSH and Putty and a key length setting. | 21:28 |
| cmatthews_ | yeah that would work too. | 21:29 |
| cmatthews_ | passphrase and a place to store private and public keys. | 21:29 |
| nowen | hmm. that would seem like the client end is in their server | 21:30 |
| nowen | so the keys are in their server, login to their server, then ssh out with the client keys | 21:31 |
| cmatthews_ | I'll put a couple screen shots of that area up in a sec and show if you think it would help you see if it may work. | 21:32 |
| nowen | ok | 21:32 |
| cmatthews_ | doing now | 21:32 |
| cmatthews_ | mind if I just email them for ease? | 21:34 |
| nowen | np | 21:34 |
| cmatthews_ | sent | 21:35 |
| cmatthews_ | sent 1 more that seems related | 21:40 |
| cmatthews_ | Anyhow thanks for all the back and forth.. Look forward to receiving the materials. In the meantime I'm getting the Centos up.. | 21:46 |
| nowen | ok | 21:46 |
| cmatthews_ | CentOS is up... so ready when you are. | 22:37 |
| nowen | ok - I'll email you some instructions. | 22:38 |
| nowen | cmatthews_: I see you'll have a location in Atlanta. I'll have to swing by for lunch sometime | 22:52 |
| cmatthews_ | Yeah we have a couple out their. | 22:53 |
| cmatthews_ | We closed a few that didn't do so well. | 22:53 |
| cmatthews_ | People like the fried alternative. | 22:53 |
| nowen | good reviews too | 22:53 |
| cmatthews_ | We do grilled. | 22:53 |
| cmatthews_ | I grew up in Lousiana.. Been in california for a lifetime thoguh. | 22:54 |
| cmatthews_ | It's the only fast food I'll eat outside of emergencies... ours I mean. | 22:54 |
| nowen | yeah, I'm not much on fast food. | 22:55 |
| nowen | chic-fil-a is of course an Atlantan fav | 22:55 |
| nowen | hmm. I can go to El Pollo Loco and then swing by Frys on the WiKID retail customer tour | 22:58 |
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| cmatthews_ | heh... | 23:04 |
| cmatthews_ | Nick, mind upping the WikiD license to the 3yr version on that invoice. | 23:05 |
| nowen | sure | 23:05 |
| cmatthews_ | thank you | 23:05 |
| cmatthews_ | The admin that generates the PO for me is out for the day.. So I'll get that over in the morning and when I send that I'll send over the connection information. | 23:23 |
| nowen | ok | 23:23 |
| nowen | time for me to head out soon anyway. | 23:23 |
| cmatthews_ | yep figured. | 23:23 |
| cmatthews_ | Have a good evening. | 23:24 |
| nowen | yep, you too | 23:24 |
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